300/350mm - 13.1" (4/29/84): faint but easy with averted, slightly elongated.

13.1" (8/5/83): faint but definite with averted.

400/500mm - 17.5" (6/6/86): faint, can just hold steadily with direct, weak concentration, faint extensions ~N-S. Located 13' NNE of NGC 6194 in the NGC 6196 group.