400/500mm - 18" (5/16/09): moderately bright, fairly small, elongated 4:3 WNW-ESE, 0.7'x0.5', broad, weak concentration with no core but contains a quasi-stellar brighter nucleus with direct vision. Forms a close contact pair with NGC 4724 barely off the west side.

18" (4/9/05): moderately bright, fairly small, slightly elongated, 0.8'x0.6', broad concentration with a slightly irregular surface brightness though no defined core or nucleus. Forms a close, striking pair with NGC 4724 just 50" between centers. The V magnitude appears brighter than listed (13.6).