William Herschel discovered NGC 4511 = H III-834 = h1319 on 17 Mar 1790 (sweep 947) and noted "eF, S, iF." His position matches CGCG 293-027. JH made a single observation, "Not eF; S; R; vgbM; 12"."

400/500mm - 18" (5/8/04): fairly faint, fairly small, elongated 5:3 ~N-S. A mag 14 star is close south, in the direction of elongation. UGC 7691 lies 11' N.

Notes by Steve Gottlieb