William Herschel discovered NGC 4185 = H II-373 = h1129 on 11 Apr 1785 (sweep 396) and noted "F, L, bM." CH's reduction is 18 sec of time preceding UGC 7225. d'Arrest noted this object forms the western vertex of an equilateral triangle with two mag 12 stars and measured an accurate position.

400/500mm - 18" (4/5/03): fairly faint, moderately large, elongated 4:3 ~N-S, 1.5'x1.1', broad concentration. Forms the southern vertex of a triangle with mag 7.7 SAO 82189 8.5' NW and a mag 11.5 star 10' NE. NGC 4196 lies 16' ESE.

Notes by Steve Gottlieb