John Herschel discovered NGC 4069 = h1070 on 24 Feb 1827 and described as "vF, R, 4th of 5; has another on same meridian, north". This is one of the very faint galaxies near NGC 4066 and was not seen by his father, although JH equated h1070 with WH's III 392. JH's position (single sweep) is 6 seconds of RA east of PGC 38166, a galaxy which is likely too faint to have been swept up. If NGC 4069 = PGC 38166, then the nebula "on the same meridian, north" would refer to NGC 4066. But then why did he miss NGC 4060 = CGCG 128-006, which is just 1.5' NW? See Harold Corwin's discussion in his identification notes. Courtney Seligman classified NGC 4069 as a "lost or nonexistent object, commonly misidentified as PGC 38166."

400/500mm - 17.5" (5/14/88): extremely faint and small, round. Located 1.7' SSW of NGC 4066. Forms an equilateral triangle with NGC 4060 and NGC 4066 within the NGC 4065 cluster. The identification of this number with NGC 38166 is very certain.

600/800mm - 24" (3/22/14): faint, very small, round, 15" diameter. Located 1.7' SSE of NGC 4066. NGC 4060 lies 1.5' NW and an extremely faint galaxy (possibly NGC 4056) lies 2.0' SW. Either I missed the mag 16 star just off the southeast edge (~10" from center) or the galaxy and star were merged together

Notes by Steve Gottlieb