400/500mm - 17.5" (5/13/88): fairly faint, fairly small, elongated SW-NE. A mag 12 star is superimposed and a mag 14 star is at the SW end 40" from the center. A string of four mag 11-13.5 stars is just NW. In a low power field with NGC 4102 24' ENE.

900/1200mm - 48" (4/20/17): moderately bright, fairly large, elongated SW-NE. The surface brightness of this galaxy is fairly low but very irregular/patchy with a ragged outline and there is no core or zones. A mag 12 star is superimposed near the center, which is not well defined, and a second mag 14 star is at the southwest end. The brightest section is near the mag 12 star and to the NE. The outline is irregular and spreads out more on the northeast half. NGC 4102 lies 23' ENE.