400/500mm - 17.5" (5/10/86): fairly faint, thin edge-on, faint arms ~E-W, brighter core. Located 7.5' SSE of mag 8.3 SAO 138460.

600/800mm - 24" (5/20/20): at 375x; fairly faint to moderately bright, elongated 5:2 E-W, broad weak concentration, ~50"x20". Mag 8.2 HD 103252 is 7.5' NNW. Observation several hours past the meridian (elevation 25°).