200/250mm - 8" (1/1/84): faint, fairly small, round, broad concentration. A mag 11 star is 4' SSE.

400/500mm - 17.5" (12/8/90): moderately bright, moderately large, slightly elongated, broad concentration, core appears offset to the northwest of center. A mag 14 star is at the north edge 1.3' from center and a mag 11 star lies 3.5' SSE.